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URN Namespace for Network Resources

Added by Richard Hughes-Jones about 10 years ago. Updated over 9 years ago.

Status:published Start date:10/10/2012
Priority:Normal Due date:
Assignee:Greg Newby % Done:

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Document Type:Community Practice

draft-gwdi-urn-ogf-network.pdf (193.1 kB) Richard Hughes-Jones, 10/10/2012 11:32 AM

draft-gwdi-urn-ogf-network.pdf (193.1 kB) Greg Newby, 11/29/2012 12:20 PM

draft-gwdi-urn-ogf-network.pdf (159.6 kB) Jeroen van der Ham, 04/25/2013 09:43 AM

draft-gwdi-urn-ogf-network.tex (36.1 kB) Jeroen van der Ham, 04/25/2013 09:43 AM

draft-gwdi-urn-ogf-network.tex (36.1 kB) Redmine Admin, 06/17/2013 09:06 AM

GFD.202.pdf (159.6 kB) Redmine Admin, 06/17/2013 09:06 AM

History

Updated by Richard Hughes-Jones about 10 years ago

  • Status changed from AD review to initial review

Updated by Richard Hughes-Jones about 10 years ago

  • Status changed from initial review to public comment

Updated by Greg Newby about 10 years ago

This is headed for public comment (gbn)

Updated by Redmine Admin about 10 years ago

Is now in public comment: http://ogf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment

Updated by Greg Newby almost 10 years ago

Richard will send the authors a note, suggesting this should be CP instead. If so, it will extend public comment for a further 30 days.

Updated by Jeroen van der Ham almost 10 years ago

Quoting GFD.191 :

The Open Grid Forum delegates parts of its namespace urn:ogf: by assigning subnamespace identifiers (SNIDs). The formal application for an SNID is made via publication of a Grid Forum Document (GFD). The GFD should be an Informational Document, and must be published according to the normal procedure as described in [GFD.152] or its successor.

So this document should be an Informational Document.

Updated by Alan Sill almost 10 years ago

This document does not seem to be written as a formal application for an SNID, but more as a community practice one. Furthermore, GFD.191 does not seem to provide for an approval process for such an application, so publication approval by the GFSG for an OGF Informational document would seem to be the only mechanism for approval of such an application.

The document appears to be trying to accomplish more than one purpose.

Updated by Freek Dijkstra almost 10 years ago

I have no strong preference, but wonder about the argument why it should be a CP. It is a formal request to delegate part of the namespace. Personally, that almost seems like a standard ("this namespace MUST be used in this-and-that way"). There are two arguments to make it informational: that's what GFD.191 says, and that's what's common in the IETF for namespace delegation.

That said, these arguments are not very strong. Are there guidelines what each type of document entails? What is the difference between ID and CP?

Alan, you say that "The document appears to be trying to accomplish more than one purpose." What purposes do you see, and would you have split that in two documents in retrospect. I'm not suggesting that I'm going to rewrite this time, but from this discussion I get the impression that I could have done a better job for both GFD.191 and this document, and like to learn what I could have improved.

Updated by Greg Newby almost 10 years ago

New version attached

Updated by Freek Dijkstra almost 10 years ago

Link to public comments: https://www.ogf.org/gf/docs/comment.php?id=390

There is an anonymous comment stating: 'RFC2141 says "location-independent" not "globally unique". These are not the same; the extension in semantics should be discussed and justified.'.
I agree that these are different, but am not sure what changes are required to the document.

Also -- the pubic is now out of public comment, is that correct now that it should be a 60-day period?

Updated by Greg Newby almost 10 years ago

  • Assignee changed from Richard Hughes-Jones to Andre Merzky

Sorry that it dropped out of public comment. Andre, could you please put it back (or Alan)? Then, I will re-announce for a further 30-days of public comment.
-- Greg

Updated by Redmine Admin almost 10 years ago

  • Assignee changed from Andre Merzky to Greg Newby

Done - I extended the public comment period to January 15th.

Updated by Greg Newby over 9 years ago

Authors/editors, there are some comments in the public comment tracker for you to look at. Please respond in that tracker or this one. If needed, you can make revisions to the document prior to the next step in the publication process, which is final standards council review.

Updated by Greg Newby over 9 years ago

  • Status changed from public comment to author action
  • Assignee changed from Greg Newby to Richard Hughes-Jones

Updated by Greg Newby over 9 years ago

Oops! Cc'ing Andre to take a look at this. It sounds like permissions
are not set quite correctly. Sorry for the trouble (and thanks for
being the first person to try this!).

-- Greg

Updated by Andre Merzky over 9 years ago

Hi Freek,

Thanks for the note -- can you please give me some more info, so that
I can debug this?

I just created a brand new user, which is member of no project, no
special privileges, etc, and can access the forum just fine, and also
can comment. So, I must have screwed up some other settings which are
not readily obvious to me..

How did you reach the forum -- via Greg's link, or by navigating there
in redmine?
What is the exact link you are having a problem with?
Are there any other pages on redmine you had trouble with lately?

Thanks, Andre.

Updated by Greg Newby over 9 years ago

  • Status changed from author action to final review

This document is in final standards council review prior to publication. I hope it will be addressed at the start of OGF-37.

Updated by Greg Newby over 9 years ago

  • Assignee changed from Richard Hughes-Jones to Andre Merzky

This is now approved for publication as GFD-CP #202. Would you please edit the header in the PDF, and also upload the full source (.zip/.tar) to this tracker? Andre will then push to ogf.org, and I will announce. Thanks for your excellent work on this document. Greg Newby, OGF Editor

Updated by Redmine Admin over 9 years ago

  • Document Type set to Community Practice

Updated by Redmine Admin over 9 years ago

  • Status changed from final review to author action

Dear authors, would you please update the GFD number in the PDF and provide a source document (tex or word)? Please note that the document number will be 'GFD.202'.

Updated by Greg Newby over 9 years ago

  • Status changed from author action to to be published

Andre will update the header to GFD-CP.202, then publish. Greg will announce.

Updated by Redmine Admin over 9 years ago

fixed GFD number and published -- can be announced.

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