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SC99 Birds of a Feather
User Services Working Group
Attendees: Rita Williams,
Judith, Mary all of NASA; John Towns, Ginny David, Jim Ferguson, Bruce Loftis,
NLANR and NCSA; Sridhar Gullapalli, USC/ISI The Globus Project
Existing Sources of Information
and
Resources Starting Point for this WG
1. NLANR provides user services and this WG can leverage some effort from there, giving due credit to get information from the DAST/NLARN site.
2. CALREN has an applications chair who could provide more information and direction.
3. NYSERNet also has useful info.
At first these were all links, but now descriptions have been added. NLANR provides user services.
To start the user services WG, we should build and augment the Repository: New information from
-Exploration E-Grid -Send e-mail to all working groups. At the present time, expertise is now contained within one or two people who are super users.
Ginny has agreed to collect info as it comes in.
One starting point is looking over conference proceedings from HPDC which has information about applications. However, documentation is a bit lacking for this.
The DCE effort focussed at the technical folks not the scientific user.
The present scheme is unique as various grid environments coming together for the first time. Levels of complexity is higher by an order of maginitude. Problems from someone else's administrative domain, with several different systems for handling issues (such as trouble tickets for instance).
This WG should take the lead and be an advocate for facilitating policy discussion across organzations, take the users perspective and become "user advocates* asking the tough questions. One WG chair Randy Bush recognized this important facet and asked "what do users want from remote I/O" requesting a paper with requirements.
A good idea: what each WG requires from each other. As an example Lee wants to see what users want from the Globus Group such as documentation etc.
John and Rita: A white paper of requirements to would need to be developed.
Two organizations already going in this direction.
NPACI plans for computing systems and Alliance plans (NLARN)
Some of the issues to be addressed.
1. 2. When things do not work, to report them, so deveoper can fix stuff and next batch of users will not see the same problem again.
Proposed Milestones for Upcoming
Year
(aka the big picture)
Three milestones were proposed: * Build a "clearing house" containing information about the grid - Provide links to applications, middleware web sites/pages - Contain or provide pointers to documentation and training for support staff and end-users (def. end-users as user community at large) - Solicit input for content from other GF WGs; other contacts (DOE, ASCI, etc.)
* Identify services and tools for support staff and end-users - Define what is needed to provide these services/tools - Define the requirements to provides about the grid - Provide links to applications, middleware web sites/pages - Contain or provide pointers to documentation and training for support staff and end-users (def. end-users as user community at large) - Solicit input for content from other GF WGs; other contacts (DOE, ASCI, etc.)
* Identify services and tools for support staff and end-users - Define what is needed to provide these services/tools - Define the requirements to provides these services/tools and "export" to appropriate GF WGs
* Assume role as support staff/end-user advocate - Create a venue by which successes/accomplishments as well as what is not working can be presented to GF WGs - Use this venue to point out those aspects of the successes/deficiencies which are useful to support staff/end-users
Please send edits or updates for this working group to
virginia@ncsa.uiuc.edu.
posted 20 December 1999
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