Minutes of the 18-Mar-2003 CGS-WG telephone conference

A CGS-WG telecon was held on March 18, 2003 (8AM Pacific time). Attendees were:

Ellen Stokes (IBM)
Andrea Westerinen (DMTF and Cisco)
Larry Flon (USC/ISI)
Tom Roney (NCSA)
Viktor Mihajlovski (IBM Germany)
Adrian Schurr  (IBM Germany)

Agenda

1. GGF7 Review
2. Open issues with JSIM
3. Dates for the next telecons

1. GGF7 Review
   
   Viktor asked for and was given a summary of the GGF7 meeting.  See Minutes of the Meeting on March 6, 2003 for more info.
    
2. Open issues with JSIM

   These issues are registered with Bugzilla.  See http://bugzilla.gridforum.org/cgs-wg.

   ID	Owner	Summary	Discussion
   2	flon@isi.edu	Merge latest JSIM schema into JSIM document	Wait a couple of weeks for schema to settle down
   4	andreaw@cisco.com	Job needs RecurringElapsedTime	Andrea will submit a CR to DMTF
   5	andreaw@cisco.com	JobScheduleSettingData not Scoped	Andrea will submit a CR to DMTF
   6	andreaw@cisco.com	Address meaning of Priority	Andrea will send a proposal and questions to the list
   7	flon@isi.edu	BatchJobGroup - Need a use case	Group jobs for execution coordination, dependency, (don't overload scheduler?).  The latter is questionable. Reassign this issue to Andrea.
   8	flon@isi.edu	Need job completion statistics	For example, this job failed the last 3 times it was run (for a recurring job).  What statistics does PBS, LL, LSF keep? The CIM class we develop will be a mirror of what is held in the scheduler, e.g. a view into say, a log file.  If the scheduler cleans its log, the CIM data would reflect that automatically because the provider would be deriving the data from the log. Reassign this issue to Ellen.
   9	andreaw@cisco.com	Resolve DeleteOnCompletion with OGSA lifecycle	Link DeleteOnCompletion to job completion code?  There is also the wider issue of representing TTL data within CIM.  Andrea should make a proposal to the list.
   10	stokese@us.ibm.com	BatchService issues	Viktor suggested that batch service and queues are similar to print service and queues. Andrea said that printing is usually by location, but perhaps also by capability of printer.
   11	flon@isi.edu	Examine brokering use case	A human user might inspect the state of several batch systems to decide where to run her jobs.  A broker would perhaps do that work, and the user would submit to the broker.  What does the broker need to know from the JSIM to make good decisions?
   12	stokese@us.ibm.com	Resolve statuses	Ellen will make a proposal to the list.
   Ran out of time; Discuss remaining issues next time.
   13	stokese@us.ibm.com	Do we need more job information/detail?
   14	stokese@us.ibm.com	Heidi Neumann's proposed class/association additions (OpenPBS)
   15	stokese@us.ibm.com	BatchJob class to provide description of the task

    

3. Dates for the next telecons

The next telecon will be on March 25.

The CGS-WG has a bi-weekly teleconference on Tuesdays at these times:

08.00-09.00 US Pacific (e.g. Los Angeles)
09.00-10.00 US Mountain (e.g. Denver)
10.00-11.00 US Central (e.g. Chicago)
11.00-12.00 US Eastern (e.g. New York)
16.00-17.00 GMT UK (e.g. London)
17.00-18.00 Central Europe (e.g. Paris)
01.00-02.00 Japan (next day)

The next Telecon of the CGS-WG is scheduled for 8AM Pacific on Tuesday March 25, 2003.  The teleconference information is:

call-in number: 1 888 709 8699
international: 1 773 799 3951
passcode: 79215