Summary of conference call February 15, 2005 In attendance: Tom Roney Susan Malaika Norman Paton Dave Pearson Mario Antonioletti This teleconference call was in conjunction with a DAIS-WG teleconference call. This is the first, and possibly the only, call the CGS-WG will have since the conclusion of the GGF12 conference and prior to the GGF13 conference. There have been several email exchanges and a lot of work done in this timeframe, and the mission of the group will have been accomplished at the conclusion of the GGF13 conference. At GGF13, the CGS-WG will have two sessions: Monday March 14 -- 5:00 (90 Min) Tuesday March 15 -- 11:00 (90 Min) On Monday, March 14, the topic of the session will be how to contribute to the support of CIM within the GGF, after the CGS working group disbands. In scheduling the session, a request was made that the timeslot should not overlap an OGSA timeslot, if possible. But OGSA does have a session at this same 5pm hour, and all the key OGSA people will be at that meeting. This is really too bad, because we wanted key OGSA players to be actively involved in the discussion, hoping that they would invite a CIM-support effort into their Architecture Area as a research or working group. Fred Maciel has agreed to attend this CGS session and to co-host the discussion, taking back to the OGSA working group a summary of what takes place. Fred is a key player in the OGSA working group, and we very much welcome and appreciate his unbending support. On Tuesday, March 15, the topic of the session will be the SRIM document. Susan Malaika will lead this session, as it is her DAIS-WG doing the development work on this project. It is agreed that the project, if not completed by the end of GGF13, will move from within the CGS-WG into the DAIS-WG, and that, as will be the case with all future CIM-related schema, the GGF working group will collaborate directly with the DMTF, and no longer with an intermediary collaborative group, such as the CGS-WG. This will, in fact, seal the CGS-WG project as being completed. There does seem to be some concensus that CIM is still in need of a supportive effort within the GGF. So this should be a primary topic at the GGF13 conference. Our regular DMTF members will not be attending the conference, after they spent lots of time and money and tremendous effort for their GGF12 attendance and presentations, for very little show of support by the GGF membership -- proving that a supportive effort within the GGF is still necessary. Here is an idea to open the discussion: A CIM research group on a mission to determine what it is that GGF working groups require in the way of grid-related information models that are not yet represented in the CIM. And then to set up a collaboration between specific DMTF and GGF working groups to develop these models as they become known. This would map the relationship between GGF and CIM. It would link GGF working groups within a structure that would define where the working groups connect and overlap, and where there are disconnects. Currently, there is no way for anyone to \"see\" how GGF working groups map to any structure. CIM would then become this underlying structure, and the whole of GGF would benefit.