From: Mike Helm Subject: Re: "Trusted Computing" BOF in GGF13, SEC Area TC-like service in existing CA's ESnet/DOEGrids uses HSM's - Hardware Security Modules - expensive add-on hardware that secures the CA's signing key (and other things). This hardware is mandatory for on-line CA use, and is useful in all kinds of CA's. TCPA might be very useful for certain kinds of trusted applicatinos relating to CA's: Existing CA's -- helping to protect HSM software CA's issuing short term certificates: proxy cert management systems KX509 - type CA's Trusted OSCP responders Trusted "indirect" CRL signers Attribute authorities Kerberos KDC's There should be a number of use cases we can derive from this. In addition, our particular HSM vendor - nCipher - offers some features beyond the traditional scope of TCPA: a trusted computing environment remote operations and management These blend into but are beyond what I think of as TCG scope; maybe it is worth discussing generalizing this for possible future grid use and TCG examination. Finally: how can we CA operators help make TC useful for Grid users? Signing certs, appropriate extensions/assertions, automated services and registration - what can we do? I said some of this, but not all. Does this help? Thanks ==mwh