OGSA-DMI meeting  2006-10-18  17:00--18:00 UTC

(v0.1)

Present:
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  Michel Drescher, Fujitsu-Europe (chair)
  Allen Luniewski, IBM
  Ravi Madduri, ANL (chair)
  Paul Millar, University of Glasgow (minutes)


Apologies:
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  Gavin McCance, CERN.


Agenda:
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  1) Early discussion (10 min)
    Note taker assignment
    Roll call
    Telecon minutes approvals
        11 Oct: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13943?nav=1
    Agenda bashing

  2) Action Item review (10 min)
    List of open action items see below

  3) Group management (15 min)
    Calendar sharing
    Screen sharing
    File and document management
        Releases, packages and associated relationships in Gridforge

  4) Wrap up (10 min)
    AOB


1) Early discussion:
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  Note taker: as above.
  Roll call: as above.
  Minutes from previous meeting: approved.
  Agenda bashing: no changes suggested.


2) Action Item review:
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  AI-10.11.a,b and d: no change

  AI-10.11.c: Ravi to write a data transfer use case collection for RFT
    Some progress was reported.

  AI-10.11.e: Michel to get Ravi up to speed on necessary chair issues
    Michel has sent an email to Ravi with relevant information.  Ravi
    is happy with this.
    ACTION CLOSED.


3) Group Management:
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  Calendar sharing:

    Proposal: to set up a new Google email account and use that
              account to have a public read-only Google calendar.

    Any software that can synchronise against ical format should work.
    Software known to work includes Thunderbird, Outlook, ...

    This already works for other groups; Andreas knows more.

    Proposal accepted.

    NEW AI-10.18.a: on Michel: contact Andreas to ask how to configure a
                    Google calendar.
    NEW AI-10.18.b: on Ravi: undertake necessary steps to get a public Google
                    calendar.


  Screen sharing:

    There is a public service at glance.net:
        http://www.glance.net/

    This service does not support Mac OS-X.  There was no clear
    statement whether they would support Macs in the (near) future.

    Another alternative (Centra) was mentioned:
        http://www.saba.com/centra-saba/

    The consensus view was this is currently a low-priority item, but
    might be useful in the future.


  Document storage:
 
    Proposal: that we make document releases (suitably packaged) and
              that these release are made available using the "file
              release" section of GridForge.
    
    Noted that the file-release section in GridForge is under
    utilised.

    There are lots of documents in OGSA.  If someone doesn't have an
    explicit reference to the document they are interested in, it is
    easy to get lost.

    A further advantage of making documents available through file
    releases is that the issue tracker can be used against document
    releases.

    Question: does the document exist in multiple locations?  We would
    need to be careful that released documents don't change over time.

    There is a feature for locking releases.

    Also, there is the concept of a "document version" which
    auto-increments.  There is also a "latest document".  Normally,
    this updates automatically to match the document with the greatest
    document version but this behaviour is adjustable.

    The consensus was to use file releases and issue tracker to make documents
    available and to track issues with documents.


4) Wrap up:
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  AOB: none


  DTNM:
    2006-10-25  17:00--18:00 UTC
    Other timezones are available at http://tinyurl.com/y5ou6u


Outstanding Action Items:
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AI-10.11.a: Michel to write a data transfer use case collection for UNICORE
AI-10.11.b: Gavin/Paolo to write a data transfer use case collection for FTS
AI-10.11.c: Ravi to write a data transfer use case collection for RFT
AI-10.11.d: Alex to write a data transfer use case collection for SRM Copy
AI-10.11.e: Michel to get Ravi up to speed on necessary chair issues
AI-10.18.a: Michel to contact Andreas to ask how to configure a Google 
calendar.
AI-10.18.b: Ravi to undertake necessary steps to get a public Google calendar.